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GrinitchSpinach's avatar

This is a good outline of TQ+-supporting Democrats' attitudes on the issue, but why shy away from the reasons the majority of voters, including lifelong Democrats like me, reject the demands to prioritize gender identity over sex in law and policy?

1. Legitimate civil rights movements do not seek to destroy the hard-won rights of other historically marginalized groups.

Redefining "woman" and "girl" to mean subjective, self-identified feelings instead of members of a material sex class puts an end to specific accommodations for female Americans: not only female-only sports and locker rooms but also domestic violence shelters, prisons, and more.

To take these accommodations away from women is to treat women as somehow an oppressor class of men, illegitimately keeping from them rights to which they are entitled.

Most of us can see that it is not a civil right for a male person to undress in front of women and girls as they undress; to be locked in a prison cell with a woman; or to sleep in the same room as an unhoused woman taking shelter for the night.

Further, redefining same-sex attraction as "same-gender attraction" is making it impossible throughout the Western world for lesbians and gay men to meet in spaces of their own without heterosexuals.

As same-sex attracted women, lesbians bear the brunt of this intersectional attack. That is why it was a lesbian radical feminist, Julia Beck, ousted from Baltimore's LGBTQ Commission Law and Policy Committee by the efforts of a male trans activist who called her support for single-sex incarceration for women "violent." It is why courts have ruled that lesbians in Victoria, Australia, may not have meet in public without admitting male "lesbians."

2. Legitimate civil rights movements seek to persuade others, not to crush all dissent by shouting down public meetings, issuing violent threats on social media, and making people fear for their livelihoods and even their safety. The more people see trans activists humming and howling to drown out parents at NYC school board meetings---or physically assaulting feminists gathering to speak about women's rights---the less TQ+ looks like a civil rights movement and the more it looks like male aggression against women.

(Trans identified females are a whole other story, but this comment is already far too long).

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Penny Adrian's avatar

"Democrats see the fight for trans rights as an extension of other past civil rights struggles, where they believe they were on the “right side of history” and conservatives were on the wrong side."

The Dems conveniently forget that Eugenics was a "progressive" cause, as was the forced sterilization of "undesirable" people. But I digress.

"Most recently, they won the fight for same-sex marriage rights, and eventually, many Republicans even came around. So, the thinking goes, why would this time be any different?"

Here's why it is different: the proponents of same sex marriage rights did not demand that ALL churches must perform same sex weddings. They did not break into church services, call all the church members Nazis, and vandalize the altar. If gay marriage activists had behaved like trans activists, we would still not have same sex marriage rights in this country.

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