I don't know anyone who voted for Trump who didn't realize his flaws a long time ago. Welcome to the party. Being nice, civil, or moral doesn't win wars. Being nice doesn't cut the deficit or debt. Being nice hasn't ever been responsible for the great actions in the world. In fact, joe was the perfect scam artist as he fooled those who t…
I don't know anyone who voted for Trump who didn't realize his flaws a long time ago. Welcome to the party. Being nice, civil, or moral doesn't win wars. Being nice doesn't cut the deficit or debt. Being nice hasn't ever been responsible for the great actions in the world. In fact, joe was the perfect scam artist as he fooled those who thought he was a kindly, honest, transparent and sharp as anyone has ever seen him as president.
Do you have only normal folks in your life? Everything you mention about him is irrelevant. He hires the best and the brightish. Do you know of any of them? Research Sam Corcos. CEO and founder of Level Health and Wellness. He works a the Treasury now as a DOGE employee. Come back when you have some idea of what it takes to be successful, overcome any "flaws" and have at least a rudimentary understanding of who Sam is. You can see him in the flesh on the Laura Ingraham show.
As for his kids, they are of no concern to you nor do have any right to criticize how he relates to his kids. Another irrelevant point. Indeed, people who over come what you accuse Elon has, are to be held up as an example as one who over came his "disabilities to become the richest man in the world. Much like Sen. Fetterman who I now greatly admire.
I have four major complaints about Bush Jr., and those are not mine. This isn't to bless Rummy or Dick, but my issues are other ones.
For starters, I think Gulf War II was wrong-headed to begin with. Saddam was a nasty guy for sure (his son Uday was much worse), but the WMD tale was a blatant lie. There was simply no reason to go there. It was financed by more deficit spending, which was the beginning of the reversal of the remarkable progress under Clinton, for which Newt Gingrich deserves credit but also Hound Dog Bill for being pragmatic.
Secondly, once there, Jr.'s viceroy in Iraq, a horse breeder who knew nothing, along with Bush and Cheney, disregaded the CIA's pleadings and dismissed all of the civil servants who'd been part of Saddam's Baath Party, and cancelled the pensions of the Iraqi army. That was 100% responsible for the chaos that followed, leading to Abu Ghraib. Which by itself was a nothingburger compared to the insurgency.
Thirdly, the expansion to Afghanistan was felony stupid. I don't mean in the legal sense, but just as a matter of emphasis. At the time, one of my financial trust network was a guy with deep experience in the Stans. Right away, and to my dismay at the time, he predicted failure. The reason, he said, was that the American public would not have the stomach to do what it would take to conquer Afghanistan.
You don't just go after "the bad guys," he said. You kill their families and their villages and their animals. Everything, no mercy. He compared it to how the U.S. forced the Japanese surrender in 1945. By then, the American public was so outraged by Pearl Harbor and then the behavior of Japanese troops in the island campaigns that hardly anyone batted so much as an eyelash about Hiroshima and Nagasaki, and the threat to exterminate all the Japanese unless they surrendered.
The World Trade Center destruction wasn't enough to unleash what would have been required, he said, especially since that really didn't come from Afghan tribes anyway. My trust network guy nailed it.
Finally, Jr.'s lack of adequate lending supervision is what caused the Panic of 2008. As a financial analyst, my first big project was to look at the residential mortgage sector, which operated very well until the Jr. years. You'd think that the S&L collapse during the 1980s (which wasn't in the residential sector, by and large, but was an outgrowth of laxity) would have impelled Jr.'s crew to clamp down starting in '02 or '03, but they didn't.
Combine all those things, and to me the corruption you mentioned is a fly on a cow's back by comparison. I'm not denying that it existed, but to me it was not the big sin.
As asides: I found Jr. to be an almost flawless contrary indicator in general. I knew a White House insider, and he told me that when Sr. was in office from 1989-1993, Jr. would visit and wander the West Wing. When he was there, the secretaries would whisper, "Here comes stupid!"
I blame Cheney and Rumsfeld for Iraq. They sent troops in with inadequate, if the troops had any at all, body armor. When the IEDs started it took over a year to get the properly armored replacement vehicles for the ones that were IED death traps. Trump demonstrated the proper way to use the military. Tell them what you want them to do, get rid of ISIS, then get out of their way and let them do their job. The classic example of how not to run a war or armed conflict was biden. All you get when politicians control the war is more death and destruction.
I knew someone who was VERY seriously injured by an IED in Iraq War II. A true American hero. Really quite a story with that fella. Like I say, I do not excuse Rummy or Dick. Only in this context, I look at the big picture stuff that adds up to Jr. being at the bottom of the presidential list. Future historians will not be kind to him or to Biden.
I don't know anyone who voted for Trump who didn't realize his flaws a long time ago. Welcome to the party. Being nice, civil, or moral doesn't win wars. Being nice doesn't cut the deficit or debt. Being nice hasn't ever been responsible for the great actions in the world. In fact, joe was the perfect scam artist as he fooled those who thought he was a kindly, honest, transparent and sharp as anyone has ever seen him as president.
Do you have only normal folks in your life? Everything you mention about him is irrelevant. He hires the best and the brightish. Do you know of any of them? Research Sam Corcos. CEO and founder of Level Health and Wellness. He works a the Treasury now as a DOGE employee. Come back when you have some idea of what it takes to be successful, overcome any "flaws" and have at least a rudimentary understanding of who Sam is. You can see him in the flesh on the Laura Ingraham show.
As for his kids, they are of no concern to you nor do have any right to criticize how he relates to his kids. Another irrelevant point. Indeed, people who over come what you accuse Elon has, are to be held up as an example as one who over came his "disabilities to become the richest man in the world. Much like Sen. Fetterman who I now greatly admire.
I think it's a neck-and-neck race between Bush Jr. and Joe Biden for the title of the worst president since Franklin Pierce.
Jr. had two the most corrupt men ever in government. Rumsfeld and Cheney. A lot of soldiers unnecessarily die or got maimed because of them.
I have four major complaints about Bush Jr., and those are not mine. This isn't to bless Rummy or Dick, but my issues are other ones.
For starters, I think Gulf War II was wrong-headed to begin with. Saddam was a nasty guy for sure (his son Uday was much worse), but the WMD tale was a blatant lie. There was simply no reason to go there. It was financed by more deficit spending, which was the beginning of the reversal of the remarkable progress under Clinton, for which Newt Gingrich deserves credit but also Hound Dog Bill for being pragmatic.
Secondly, once there, Jr.'s viceroy in Iraq, a horse breeder who knew nothing, along with Bush and Cheney, disregaded the CIA's pleadings and dismissed all of the civil servants who'd been part of Saddam's Baath Party, and cancelled the pensions of the Iraqi army. That was 100% responsible for the chaos that followed, leading to Abu Ghraib. Which by itself was a nothingburger compared to the insurgency.
Thirdly, the expansion to Afghanistan was felony stupid. I don't mean in the legal sense, but just as a matter of emphasis. At the time, one of my financial trust network was a guy with deep experience in the Stans. Right away, and to my dismay at the time, he predicted failure. The reason, he said, was that the American public would not have the stomach to do what it would take to conquer Afghanistan.
You don't just go after "the bad guys," he said. You kill their families and their villages and their animals. Everything, no mercy. He compared it to how the U.S. forced the Japanese surrender in 1945. By then, the American public was so outraged by Pearl Harbor and then the behavior of Japanese troops in the island campaigns that hardly anyone batted so much as an eyelash about Hiroshima and Nagasaki, and the threat to exterminate all the Japanese unless they surrendered.
The World Trade Center destruction wasn't enough to unleash what would have been required, he said, especially since that really didn't come from Afghan tribes anyway. My trust network guy nailed it.
Finally, Jr.'s lack of adequate lending supervision is what caused the Panic of 2008. As a financial analyst, my first big project was to look at the residential mortgage sector, which operated very well until the Jr. years. You'd think that the S&L collapse during the 1980s (which wasn't in the residential sector, by and large, but was an outgrowth of laxity) would have impelled Jr.'s crew to clamp down starting in '02 or '03, but they didn't.
Combine all those things, and to me the corruption you mentioned is a fly on a cow's back by comparison. I'm not denying that it existed, but to me it was not the big sin.
As asides: I found Jr. to be an almost flawless contrary indicator in general. I knew a White House insider, and he told me that when Sr. was in office from 1989-1993, Jr. would visit and wander the West Wing. When he was there, the secretaries would whisper, "Here comes stupid!"
I blame Cheney and Rumsfeld for Iraq. They sent troops in with inadequate, if the troops had any at all, body armor. When the IEDs started it took over a year to get the properly armored replacement vehicles for the ones that were IED death traps. Trump demonstrated the proper way to use the military. Tell them what you want them to do, get rid of ISIS, then get out of their way and let them do their job. The classic example of how not to run a war or armed conflict was biden. All you get when politicians control the war is more death and destruction.
I knew someone who was VERY seriously injured by an IED in Iraq War II. A true American hero. Really quite a story with that fella. Like I say, I do not excuse Rummy or Dick. Only in this context, I look at the big picture stuff that adds up to Jr. being at the bottom of the presidential list. Future historians will not be kind to him or to Biden.
hmmm, I wasn't being critical at all of Musk...
Thanks for the clarification.