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Larry Schweikart's avatar

This is the first common-sense step Democrats have taken in five years. Their problem remains, however, not congresscritters but big city mayors who are completely unrepentant.

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Sandra Pinches's avatar

Those mayors are in fact getting elected by the majority of people in those cities. We can certainly argue that the Soros, etc., cabal bought their mayoral seats, but that worked because the voters themselves were ignorant or deluded regarding what it takes to run a city effectively.

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Isabelle Williams's avatar

Wouldn't it be funny if Trump's resounding victory brought back bi partisan working together? The democrats need to abandon the crazy open border agenda. I just saw on twitter that California is going to give free healthcare to illegals. My guess is that most middle class people do not like this idea. Could California go red?

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Frank Frtr's avatar

Wouldn’t we love that.

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Sonu's avatar

Not until the CA GOP is a Trump carnival

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SteveG's avatar

Evidently a recent poll showed 55% of Californians support the program which actually began in 2016 - and has gradually been phased in with significant requirements to qualify for the 100% Californian paid for program.

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MG's avatar

Maybe they will reallocate resources -- from free medical care for illegal immigrants but not citizens, money on 'resist Trump' --- or more fire prevention?

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Ronda Ross's avatar

Many Dems, still, do not grasp, the magnitude of the problem. They worry about Dreamer deportation, as collateral damage from the bill, with little thought of American citizens, losing their lives to unvetted, new arrivals.

Perhaps it is a matter of geography. In Texas, on what appears to be a biweekly basis, if not more, American citizens are victims of serious migrant crime. Young girls are raped or worse. Car accidents, caused by unlicensed, uninsured, often drunk, migrant drivers, often claim the lives of Texans. A a few weeks before Christmas, a 7 year old running Christmas errands with her mother, was a recent victim. Imagine the pain of the that Mother on Christmas morning, and every morning thereafter, for the rest of her life. A week before Thanksgiving a 20 something Austin man, met his early demise, in the same manner . That Dems, still, repeatedly, refuse to acknowledge the entirely preventable carnage, may not, be forgivable, regardless of how they vote now.

Certainly most migrants are not criminals, but if 1% of the 10 million new arrivals are violent or untested drivers, Americans will endure 100K preventable acts of violence or accident. Statistically speaking, 400K serious crimes are more likely, since violent offenders average 4 victims before they are arrested, if ever.

Dreamers deported due to minor crime, can be addressed, on a case by case basis. Nothing will bring back Americans who have lost their lives, due to Dems, purposefully, flooding the US with 10 unvetted migrants, 90% of whom, they know, will never qualify for asylum.

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MG's avatar

Sad that all Democrat support was framed as voting for the bill in order to further their political careers. Is it possible that Democrats could vote for this bill because it was the right thing to do?

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John Webster's avatar

I live in the Third District in Minnesota which was recently represented by Dean Phillips, the only elected Democrat who had the courage to inform the public about Biden's dementia. The new Congresswoman - Kelly Morrison - voted against this bill. She won this suburban Minneapolis district by 17 points; the district is no longer close to being competitve. She poses as a moderate, but she will vote the left-wing party line, and the local political media serves as her cheerleader. She reflects what the vast majority of elected Democrats believe about immigration - no limits at all.

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H. E. Baber's avatar

Years ago my fellow members of the left objected to the US being 'policeman of the world'--a role the US was uniquely qualified to play. More recently they decided we should be social worker of the world, opening the borders to innumerable uneducated, unskilled people from 'traditional societies' who did not share our values--and to give them a pass for public nuisance behavior, gross sexism, and other behaviors we wouldn't tolerate in educated, middle class Americans. How come? I lived in an urban immigrant neighborhood and know whereof I speak.

I lived there because I was poor. I don't live there now because I can afford not to. It's hardly surprising that people without the means to avoid contact with these people want the borders closed. They aren't eating dogs and cats. And, let's be honest, the issue isn't that they're taking American jobs, which they aren't. The issue is that we don't want to have contact with them because they're culturally alien and obnoxious.

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MG's avatar

"It burns me that the first-generation South Asian who is currently in line to be the head of the FBI is named Kashyap Pramod Vinod Patel."

I don't understand your comment?

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Ollie Parks's avatar

It is OK to say that immigrants to the U.S. should strive to assimilate. It burns me that the first-generation South Asian who is currently in line to be the head of the FBI is named Kashyap Pramod Vinod Patel.

I had the good fortune to be in Oslo for the country's National Day, May 17, a few years ago. It seemed like the entire population of that beautiful city turned out in their national costumes to promenade and watch the tremendously engaging children's march. That included black immigrant families from the Horn of Africa. I treasure my photo of a beaming little girl in her hijab holding a small Norwegian flag surrounded by her blond Nordic classmates in the parade. Mixed-race couples in their 40s were not at all uncommon. As I was walking home, a gorgeous young Iranian woman dressed to the nines descended from a taxi in her stylish high heels.

The only people who were not caught up in the spirit of the day were the middle aged men from Bulgaria or Albania, almost certainly undocumented, who sat around in groups on the periphery smoking and looking very out of place.

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Richard's avatar

Don't understand the comment about Dreamers. Did the bill do something about them or did Democrats object to deporting the subset who commit crimes or was it hostage taking.

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Kahmaulya Harris's avatar

Please.

Them are democrats.

They didn't change.

The wind did.

They are so predictable.

And so weak.

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Sandra Pinches's avatar

So, we have learned that many Democrats' voting patterns are based on whatever works to get them elected. Good. Let's stop voting for them until they stop voting for insane policies.

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ban nock's avatar

Thirty years ago it would have been the Democrats putting forward this bill and some Republicans joining. Democrats switched to supporting Reagan type neoliberalism which includes massive numbers of low wage immigrants.

What remains to be seen is how deportation goes. On the way out the door the Biden admin extended TPS to almost a million workers.

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Hanover Phist's avatar

“An immigration bill this conservative”…yeah the idea that people who are here in violation of the law already, who then violate other laws, ought to be detained in someway is way out there, super right wing. Talk about your moved Overton window.

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Singleshot's avatar

Guys like Cuellar can put lipstick on, but they'll always be hard left. As for the national Democrat strategists, this election proved again that they're simply clueless when it comes to Hispanic politics.

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Kahmaulya Harris's avatar

As usual, Republicans work and Democrats brag.

The dei equivalent in the gop is genetics which has some basis in logic as that was the system that defined almost all governments until THE USA booted they relatives of Princess Harry.

But the demcorat dei is always self destructive. It's ain't skin...I lived in downtown LA in the late 80s, no not Westwood or weho but downtown. It was Mayor Bradley, a giant man's man who was black smart and shrewed as s hit. Anybodybexpectntk see the lack airport named after bass? Maybe the fecal filters on terminal island. Maybe.

It's female dei that is the problem because as here, weak chicks always higher weaker chicks and the s hit just piles up.

Would we have been better had the white developer won as mayor? We don't know now but we will soon enough.

Is this the fault of a 750,000 as year barely articulate dei Hispanic water czarette? Maybe but I think we can all say that had this been a real man and not some gutless Newscum type, I'm sure they'd want to earn that salary by working and not pontificating about inclusion.

The Era of the Soft...ie dei women a d their weak male supporters ends Januaray 20 and the Era of the Hard begins.

Bumpy? Sure. So too is cancer surgery but ya gotta go under the knife to survive.

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Arrr Bee's avatar

You do know that Ross Barkan is a gross far-leftist member of the Free Palestine cult, right?

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MarkS's avatar

Now for H.R.28, the Protection of Women and Girls in Sports Act, vote at noon Tuesday. Will any Democrats go against Big Trans? My prediction is no, but I'll be happy to be proven wrong.

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Michael E Kelley's avatar

Blaming progressive Democrats is selfish. The problem is the Democratic movement toward wealthy college educated voters and away from the poor, lower educated voters and everyone who cares about inflation.

Progressives actually care more about the poor then the DNC elites.

Why is the DNC election after the Inauguration?

100 EXECUTIVE ORDERS

Trump hopes Democrats get into Keystone Kop mode when 100 executive orders come out.

Instead of waiting for Trump's Day One and being shocked over 100 executive orders, the DNC should plan for the worse and have ALL Democrats and media respond overwhelmingly ONE TOPIC PER DAY in the following week.

HERE ARE THE TOPICS anticipated based on Project 2025 and other hints.

Day 1. Medicare. Reverses drug price negotiating which hurts the poor. Reduces Medicare spending that reduces the budget but hurts the poor. Gives more power to states (may require Congress) Attempts to eliminate Affordable Care Act.

Day 2. Dept of Homeland Security. Immigration. Expect Dreamers to be deported. Possible War on Mexico declared and detention camps set up. Democrats should pass Immigration bill that Trump killed last year.

Day 3. Dept of Health and Human Services renamed. Eliminates mailing of abortion pills. Adds pregnancy monitoring system. Eliminates fluoride in water. Requires extensive testing of all vaccines.

Day 4. Dept of Justice makeover makes it politicized. Declare War on Deep State and arrest all enemies for treason. Declare that anyone charged with treason is imprisoned without bail. Executions allowed for more crimes.

Day 5. NOAA National Oceanic and Atmospheric Admin dismantled to stop Climate Change reporting.

Day 6. LGBTQ+ rights restricted.

Day 7. Dept of Interior. Public lands will be allowed to be sold off.

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